Tips of the Iceberg

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh (L) | Social Activist Anna Hazare (R)

Humans find it easy to rally behind leaders. Leaders are meant to shoulder responsibility and are supposed to be accountable for everything their team, flock or the set of followers does. As a result, humans find it easy to shun accountability, shun responsibility and find selfish interests while leaders take the blows.

Anna Hazare is a naive, peace-loving man who trusts easily and knows what he wants. Manmohan Singh, the Prime Minister, is an honest intellectual. It is important to note that both of them lead massive troops with a mind of their own. The many anti-corruption ‘followers’ of Anna have their own interests at heart. The corrupt among the politicians do what they will under the Prime Minister’s name. And media, quite joyfully, declare Anna as the face of the movement and our Prime Minister as the face of the government.

The face of an organization is often just the tip of the iceberg. When a ship collides with an iceberg at the high seas, it collides with what lies beneath the surface- the huge indistinct mass of ice of which the tip is only a token. The issue lies with what lies beneath the surface, not with the tip that seems ever so innocent under the sun.

The people who benefit from an organization’s policies are often not out there among the public. Often, the people representing a cause face unfair harshness thanks to the decisions of those hidden many. It is advisable for media channels to understand how sensitive minds of the masses are. It is advisable for the media channels to not pitch Anna versus the noble Prime Minister. Let us be responsible and realize that both are good men and they have their hands tied behind their backs. The people behind the fiasco are away from the public glare. They always are.

Let us stop this mindless blabber and work towards a sensible future. Rude words and demonstrations have benefited no one, ever. And uprooting corruption is a distant dream if we are unwilling to let our minds mature.

love and peace 

  29 comments for “Tips of the Iceberg

  1. Akshay Mallya
    August 20, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Sushrut Munje.If you are so sure that there are some members of India Against Corruption having selfish interests,can you name them?
    The Prime Minister is noble ,agreed.But he is equally culprit in letting many things(like the 2G scam and CWG)happen which couldn’t have occurred without Manmohan SIngh’s knowledge.And if he is so true then he could have reported the matters at the earliest.And now by ignoring the decision of the masses who have come out on streets for Anna and his team of course,he isn’t behaving professional.Anna isn’t controlled but he is advised by the likes of Arvind Kejriwal,Shanti and Prashant Bhushan,Kiran Bedi,Manish Sisodiya etc.And do you think people are stupid,so stupid to identify the truth?

    • Sushrut Munje
      August 20, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      People (in general) are stupid, always have been stupid to identify the truth, Akshay Mallya. In this case and in many other cases across the world. You might like to read about the nationalist revolutions in Latin America in detail. Or about the religions and our evolution theories. Fun stuff.

      I’d rather not name people but it is very clear that this ‘revolution’ is a mockery of a democracy we live in. Anna is way too noble to realize the reason and the people behind this mad crazy ‘response’ from the masses. I bet that 70% of the people are supporting Anna because it is ‘cool’ to do so. Do they even understand what corruption is?

      Jan Lokpal Bill is ‘one of the 15 steps’ to curb corruption in this country. Melodramatic demonstrations are going to help no one, except make the college students feel good about themselves and boost the candle industry. It is time we focus on ourselves and let our minds mature.

      Let me know if this bugs you.

      • Sarvesh Kulkarni
        August 20, 2011 at 10:02 pm

        I don’t want to sound like a comfortable ambivalent, but I find sense in both the comments. Yes, the Prime Minister is noble, so is Anna, but I feel both are misguided. Prime Minister, since ever, and Anna, because of such a huge mass-support he suddenly has received. And yes, 70 percent of people do it because it is ‘cool.’ But then, on the other hand, its time the government was slapped on the face for its brutal arrogance since ever. I do not support the hysteria, false sense of revolution, but then, I won’t mind it even if it achieves as much as creating an insecurity in the mind of politicians about their sense of invincibility. I am still trying to understand everything, and very flexible in forming any conclusions, but so far, this is what I think. :)

        • Sushrut Munje
          August 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm

          I agree, mate.

          My point being, it is not a one-man revolution. And the masses are not fully aware of the situation that seems so darn manipulated. A slap for the arrogance, yes. However, that point is slightly out of context, no offense. :)

          I’m neither pro-government nor pro-Anna. I just feel that we can empower the people and introduce a million reforms using the same enthusiasm that is channeled in such ‘revolutions’. That will help in petting the Dragon-Corruption. Slaying it, otherwise, requires an obscene amount of imagination and resources.

          • Sarvesh Kulkarni
            August 20, 2011 at 10:59 pm

            But do you really think that it is possible for all the people to come out with this much enthusiasm and try to bring about various reforms? Is it really possible that everyone tries to focus and channel their efforts towards betterment? I know that this is what should be done, but I am really not sure if as much people would be up for this. It is all grey, to be honest. This is a misguided struggle, for sure, but I believe there will atleast be some positive results rather than everything carrying on its own course as always. Because I don’t think all of us would come together in such a manner for our country, for reforms.

  2. Sushrut Munje
    August 20, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    I believe it is possible if we channel our energies. Instead of fasting, Anna can talk about all this. People don’t listen. They should be made to. We know the methods. This can be a huge discussion.

  3. Sarvesh Kulkarni
    August 20, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    But yes, I also believe that this whole incident, which is termed as revolution, will set a very bad precedent for the times to come. It is sheer frustration of the youth, not its power.
    This whole thing will end up making us more arrogant than ever, and, the thing that intrigues me the most is, this whole struggle smells of..um, ‘hatti-pana,’ for the lack of a better word.

  4. Sarvesh Kulkarni
    August 20, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    This can be a huge discussion, NOW. But I am not sure if it would have been so, before all this happen. It is sad, most certainly. :)

    • Sushrut Munje
      August 21, 2011 at 12:56 am

      True :)

  5. Sakshi Jinturkar
    August 21, 2011 at 11:38 am

    “The Anna Obsession”

    • Akshay Mallya
      August 21, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      Sakshi Jinturkar.It isnt obsession but an awakening and hope through Anna.
      So i will rephrase it”The Anna awakening”

  6. Akshay Mallya
    August 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Sushrut Munje.You seem to be among those so called”Intellectuals”(Buddhujeevi) who always deliberately try to be different for their own reasons which are never accepted by the masses.People are only stupid when they are lured into those political rallies by offering biryani and liquor.And this is surely not a political rally.This movement shows people’s power against a common enemy ,corruption.Office going people took part here alongside the lower classes.Forget about Latin american revolutions,because they were uncontrolled and were accomplished by slaying innocents where only people with psychological complications lead and take part(eg:Che Guevera).Don’t you think this movement is very much organised and non violent?So it isn’t stupid at all.Agreed Jan Lokpal is 1 out of many solutions to curb corruption(you cant Pet this Dragon,sorry)but at this moment Jan Lokpal bill is imperative because this will bring some strictness and discipline in our Govt. administrative machinery and eventually will curb red tapism.And you say fasting isn’t a solution,but you fail to understand that this tyrannical Govt. didn’t leave any other option thanks to their arrogance.There has been too much of discussion and is still going on.And people who support Anna(even those 70% that you say who aren’t interested but actually it isn’t ) have made the draft and have given their nod by means of endless referendums.Even accurate referendums don’t seem to convince you and this arrogant Govt. i guess.You can never name anybody from the Civil society with selfish interests because there aren’t any.And please,before alleging the members of Civil Society and insulting Anna(through”Annapolis” and “Banana”),i would suggest you to GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT…!!!

    • Sushrut Munje
      August 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm

      You’re missing the point, dear Akshay Mallya. Can we have a proper ‘intellectual’ discussion please?

      • Akshay Mallya
        August 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm

        Sushrut Munje,You had no point in your blog.All i could see was cynicism with a unique but negative attitude.You can always seek attention by this but never convince people

        • Sushrut Munje
          August 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm

          No, really, you might try looking at it from a neutral, patient perspective. The only point being- Neither Anna nor Prime Minister Manmohan Singh can be made the face of the movement/government because they simply represent the tip of an iceberg. And none of us can truly understand how deep and huge the iceberg is.

          • Akshay Mallya
            August 22, 2011 at 3:43 pm

            but did you have names when i asked you?
            Give the facts.Its as simple as that.At this moment,a decision is imperative and not a neutral perspective.And this bill(Jan Lokpal)
            has been drafted by people’s participation,so democaracy has been given due respect.And you don’t notice the fact that what Govt. is proposing is unacceptable and ineffective measure.So people are opposing that too.

            • Sushrut Munje
              August 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm

              You are again, stubbornly, missing the point. This is not being sensible.

              • Akshay Mallya
                August 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm

                Sorry sir ,there cant be any debate where there are no facts to support the allegations.

                • Sushrut Munje
                  August 22, 2011 at 5:41 pm

                  “The campaign is being handled by people who run a clutch of generously funded NGOs whose donors include Coca-Cola and the Lehman Brothers. Kabir, run by Arvind Kejriwal and Manish Sisodia, key figures in Team Anna, has received $400,000 from the Ford Foundation in the last three years. Among contributors to the India Against Corruption campaign there are Indian companies and foundations that own aluminum plants, build ports and SEZs, and run Real Estate businesses and are closely connected to politicians who run financial empires that run into thousands of crores of rupees. Some of them are currently being investigated for corruption and other crimes.” [from http://bit.ly/owVXq2%5D You might also like to read Sunday TOI and Sunday Economic Times for articles that echo my sentiments. Please don’t be so arrogant. It is not being sensible.

                  • August 25, 2011 at 8:10 pm

                    Hi Sushrut Munje.I apologize for the late reply as i didn’t see this

                    blog for days.
                    And i felt the need to answer your the pasted comments above and

                    hence will continue this endless debate.I will appreciate it if you

                    read my whole comment without leaving it unread in the middle

                    because i feel it is important to understand my point properly

                    before deeming me senseless and arrogant.
                    I read the whole article of Arundhati Roy which you suggested as

                    your “reliable source” which echoes your so called “point” and i

                    was shocked of what you claimed.
                    What is my point of suspicion is the timing of you providing me

                    with a source.You posted “Tips of the iceberg” on 19th

                    August,2011.And almost immediately(within a day) i asked you

                    for the source of misinformation.Then for three days you didn’t give

                    me any details and then suddenly you find something which echoes

                    your thoughts.I feel you are seriously mistaken as the link you

                    suggested(“I’d rather not be Anna” by Arundhati Roy) was posted

                    online on 21st August,2011 two days after you wrote.So do you

                    mean to say that the source of your blog came up later after your

                    supposed “allegation” on IAC(India Against Corruption)?This

                    means that you first write and then find facts to justify it.(I find it

                    very irresponsible of a brilliant blogger like you).We write based on

                    the facts established earlier and not later.
                    Now lets talk about the legitimacy of Arundhati Roy’s article.I am

                    more surprised that you find truth in the writings of someone who

                    was a part of the conspiracy against her own country(With Gilani

                    in Delhi itself).Although it is your decision to support someone.But

                    Arundhati Roy compared Anna Hazare’s fight to the violent

                    Maoists who terrorize people with their communist antics.She

                    herself being an intellectual terrorist wrote an article condemning

                    the movement without due facts even calling Anna communal and

                    a “freshly minted saint”.I now suggest you read the counter view

                    on this

                    http://clearvisor.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/why-i%E2%80%99d-r

                    ather-be-anna-than-arundhati/
                    .On this link in “Arundhati, lie ten caught” the author has justified

                    all the money received(the perfect amount and for what cause on

                    this link http://www.fordfoundation.org/grants/search on page

                    35).On this link you will find that Kabir has no faulty accounts

                    and also go on this link of IAC

                    http://www.box.net/shared/oycxnu4vxtlqdmdy2n2r.
                    So it seems that your research was next to nothing and you relied

                    on Arundhati Roy only.
                    Now the most important thing is that the Government tried harder

                    than Arundhati Roy to deface Anna and “Kejrival and Co” already

                    but they weren’t successful in finding anything wrong about

                    them.So do you think Govt. is stupid not to scrutinize IAC’s and

                    Kabir’s accounts before this movement?(As history goes Congress

                    never left any chance to defame anybody including Team Anna but

                    found nothing this time).It is only because Govt. also finds no truth

                    in Arundhati Roy’s writings(It is very painful to read,it should

                    rather be called “rash writing”).
                    So Sushrut Munje, who is not sensible and arrogant?

                    • Sushrut Munje
                      August 25, 2011 at 8:12 pm

                      To keep it short, I’d like to say that I quite agree with Arundhati’s point and I still find my point of view justified- if it is understood. Thank you.

  7. Sakshi Jinturkar
    August 22, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Akshay Mallya, You can’t force anyone to follow what YOU like. Sushrut has his own views towards it and he has given a place for those thoughts in his blog.

    You suggest anything if you want to but don’t create a fuss about it. And if you are talking about ‘Govt., Satyagraha, Anna awakening, Democracy’, then you have no right to prove Sushrut wrong too, as he lives in the same democratic country which you are talking about.

    • Akshay Mallya
      August 22, 2011 at 4:03 pm

      Sakshi Jinturkar,i am grateful to YOU to remind me that Our India is a democracy where everyone has a Freedom Of Expression(though many choose to misuse it….)I would be more grateful to YOU if YOU remind Sushrut Munje of the same.Sushrut Munje also called the PEOPLE OF INDIA stupid by generalizing the statement(see 2nd comment).Does he have the right to do this?Because as YOU or someone said that India is a democratic country.And i did not create any fuss nor did i force Sushrut to follow.I asked him names and when he called us(People) stupid i tried to justify myself as i am one among those awakened(obsessed,as you put it) Indians.

    • Prathamesh Deorukhkar
      August 22, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      Sakshi Jinturkar everybody has a different thinking and a different perception.. U shud also have a different view of things.. U must not follow someone blindly before seeing both sides of the coin.. We are not STUPID and we are supportin the Jan Lokpal bill because it is a first attempt to curb corruption after so many years.. And I know dat everybody can think dat “Cant da Lokpal officials get into corruption?” But the possibility is low because people will get elected on da basis of a special criteria.. That is recievin an award called the Ramon Magsaysay award.. Which is a lifetime achievement award.. N even if dey get into corruption dey wud be removd by da people if found guilty.. think on it… We wud hav some power to stop corrupt practices… If it comes into power…

      • Sushrut Munje
        August 22, 2011 at 6:49 pm

        Prathamesh, no one here is condemning the bill. No one here is Anti-Anna. We are simply questioning the methods harnessed during the revolution. Kindly do not justify the bill. We welcome the discussion regarding the after-effects of the wide protests.

        • Prathamesh Deorukhkar
          August 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm

          Sir, I know that a sudden revolution can leave the government in tantrums but it was coming… The government knew this kind of revolt wud come.. And dis is not at all violent.. It is peaceful.. And if u talk about fasting den Anna is doin it because he knows dat if he would not have fasted in April, the government wud not have even considered having such a bill.. And he is fasting because he knows he wud win the battle.. just as Bhagat Singh and Co did in prison fr a duration of 114 days… To get a humane treatment… So many people have been stranded and devastated especially due to corruption in the educational system.. So I think there remains no other alternative rather than giving an ultimatum to the government… And the best and most effective form of protest is fasting… TO be the real rulers of the nation.. And to land ‘public servant s to their real place’

          • Sushrut Munje
            August 22, 2011 at 7:22 pm

            Okay. We certainly hope to see Team Anna doing sensible protests for other steps as well, to curb corruption. This, without a political motive or manipulative methods.

            • Prathamesh Deorukhkar
              August 22, 2011 at 7:43 pm

              Yeah sure… He would surely do that.. I would surely support him if he does so.. But he does not have a political motive now also.. He neither supports BJP nor does e support Congress.. He supports the idea of democracy… By the people.. FOR the people… To the people.. Dont be cynical.. Dis is an independent protest widout any selfish motive..

              • Sushrut Munje
                April 6, 2012 at 10:15 am

                Hallo people. Your perspectives on the ‘revolution’ now? Still the same enthusiasm?

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